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Black Friday 2011: Low-End Stores Opening Earliest This Year

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First Posted: 11/20/11 12:00 PM ET Updated: 11/22/11 05:48 PM ET

NEW YORK (Phil Wahba) - Thanksgiving Day is for eating turkey, watching football and, apparently, shopping at lower-end retailers.

While much has been made in the media about retailers opening their doors at midnight to grab their share from shoppers' wallets, several retailers that cater to people with the tightest budgets will be open all day.

Sears Holdings (SHLD.O) is keeping its discount K-Mart stores open on Thanksgiving for the 20th year, waiting until Black Friday, the following day that officially kicks off holiday shopping, to welcome people into its namesake chain.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT.N) is also open on Thanksgiving, as are most of Gap Inc's (GPS.N) Old Navy locations.

Executives and analysts alike have said the fight for shopper dollars is more intense this year in a tough job market and uncertain economy. The National Retail Federation expects retail sales to up 2.8 percent this season, below last year's 5.2 percent clip.

Chains that cater to shoppers on the tightest budget stand to lose the most, analysts said.

"They want to make sure they are getting consumer dollars before anyone else," said Kurt Salmon retail strategist Megan Donadio. "Retailers want to do whatever they can to make sure what consumers do spend is spent with them."

Low-price retailer Ross Stores Inc's (ROST.O) CEO Michael Balmuth said on Thursday that he was not raising his chain's holiday sales outlook because of the possibility of "more competitive than usual holiday season."

How high the stakes are for low-cost chains is made clear by the varying strategies retailers take for different chains within their portfolios.

Gap will only welcome shoppers at some Gap and Banana Republic stores, and Sears decided this year to revert to its usual 4 a.m. opening on Black Friday after finding limited interest last year in its Thanksgiving hours as shoppers stayed home and shopped online instead.

Still, even middlebrow chains like Macy's Inc (M.N), Kohl's Corp (KSS.N) and discounter Target Corp (TGT.N) have felt the pressure, opening earlier than ever by kicking off their Black Friday sales at the stroke of midnight.

One holdout is J.C. Penney Co Inc (JCP.N), which is sticking to its guns and opening at 4 a.m. on Black Friday. But Kohl's CEO Kevin Mansell told Reuters last week that it would have been the "wrong" approach for his chain, considering rivals like Macy's and Target will be open for business.

At the other end of the spectrum, high-end retailers have felt no pressure to change store hours. Most of Macy's Bloomingdale's stores are again opening at 8 a.m. on Black Friday, while Nordstrom Inc (JWN.N) and Saks Inc (SKS.N) stores are also largely sticking to last year's schedule.

Still, Nordstrom-owned daily deals site Haute Look found high end shoppers started looking for deals and buying earlier this year, its CEO Adam Bernard told Reuters on Thursday.

The competition remains most intense for shoppers of the most modest means. Target on Wednesday said Wal-Mart's layaway program, revived this year after a five-year hiatus, was hurting its toy sales.

"They want to get the best deal, get the most merchandise at the best price, to take advantage of that frenzy. So they are going to get up earlier, stay up late or do whatever it takes," said Janet Hoffman, managing director of Accenture's retail practice.

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11:28 AM on 11/22/2011
Still, if you'll look at the black friday flyers, the controversial part is the opening time for big consumer-electronic stores like Walmart, Best Buy even Target on the midnight of Thanksgiving. http://bit.ly/tdhhlE
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GretchenMann
07:40 PM on 11/21/2011
There's no way that I'll ever go shopping on Black Friday. In fact, I won't even be shopping this Christmas or any other Christmases. I'll be giving notes that tell recipients that they've been honored by having had a donation made in their names to charities that I select. I simply won't allow myself to be led around by the nose by corporate greed-masters. How can people fall for all this malarkey? Malls and shopping centers are all decked out with Christmas decorations and filled with Christmas music before Halloween has seen the light of day. It's not even subtle.
02:12 PM on 11/21/2011
I have only gone to one Black friday many years ago and I vowed I would never do it again. Shame on the corporate greedy people who will be home snuggled with there families. Not only will I not shop on Thanksgaving day or black friday, I will not shop at any of them who are opening on Thanksgiving even as I begin to shop for the Holiday.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
01:11 PM on 11/21/2011
We have had enough bad news so who is really in the mood to buy gifts these days? We should all refuse to participate as a form of protest. But I know, people are not hurting enough yet and so we continue with this nonsense of early store hours, not caring for employees who have to get up early and work twice as hard without the proper pay and only to get laid off again after XMAS. It is not like they expect a booming business and the longer hours don't guarantee a better bottom line.
01:54 PM on 11/21/2011
Agreed. I have already decided that any store that has such un-family-friendly policies, will not be getting 1-cent from me this holiday season. And will be writing a letter to each to let them know.

I know that corporations have taken over so much of our lives that I will never get them out completely, but there are things we can do from time to time.
08:13 AM on 11/21/2011
Hopefully people/consumers will help support all the employees who are being scheduled to work at these greedy retail stores on Thanksgiving by NOT going shopping on Thanksgiving.

We really only celebrate two major Holidays that traditionally are meant to be spent with family and friends, Thanksgiving and Christmas.

I find the excessive greed of these retail's opening Thanksgiving rather disturbing. Many fields of professional employment such as medical, fire/police etc. require employees to work Holidays, weekends etc, and that's just part of working in the medical/health care and public safety professional lines of work.

I however, don't see where individuals employed in retail lines of work are so critically needed and scheduled to work on the Thanksgiving Holiday other then for corporate greed demanding it.
08:28 AM on 11/21/2011
Maybe, it has something to consumers who love to shop Thanksgiving and the day after as early as possible? When your competition is online, pays zero sales tax and operates 24/7, and consumers have demand for shopping at those hours, you likely do what you must to survive. And, excessively greed people, I think you will find plenty of those running around Walmart trying to save every thin nickel on a piece of plastic crap from China. You are so clearly dreaming that it is solely just the greedy corporations.
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ninagoneobama
Left happy
01:00 PM on 11/21/2011
I won't be shopping Black Thursday or Friday. The less money I spend on these corporations the better.
07:29 AM on 11/21/2011
Why waking up and standing in lines while there's a better way: buy online.
http://www.lifestyle-after50.com/shopping-day-and-night.html
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southingtonian
"I'm a Capricorn and you can't make me do sh*t.."
07:26 AM on 11/21/2011
"Low-End Stores Opening Earliest This Year" Of course. Neiman Marcus clients have no need to get up at midnight to save a few dollars on something they would probably buy at full price anyway.
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Anartist
07:04 AM on 11/21/2011
Shopping feels more and more like a dirty word. Buy Nothing Day, this coming friday.
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southingtonian
"I'm a Capricorn and you can't make me do sh*t.."
07:26 AM on 11/21/2011
for our household that's a given. It's been some time since we gave each other anything more fancy than shampoo or socks.
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2pence
ignorance should not be contagious
06:48 AM on 11/21/2011
Their is nothing in the retail world worth buying on any holiday that deprives a worker of family time during a holiday. Family values obviously is a selective application. If you have a higher paying, non emergency/healthcare related job, you qualify for holiday indulgence with family. If you are one of the minions of the corporate master, toil away. On November 25 the evening editorials of evil Christmas consumerism will appear beside the early profit reports of major retailers. Stay home if you can, be civil when you do go shopping, and be sane as more cheap Chinese made junk is not worth the sacrifice of decency.
05:18 AM on 11/21/2011
open at 4pm on Thursday there will be tons of shoppers and stay open
10:20 PM on 11/20/2011
Opening at midnight on Black Friday kind of reeks of desperation in a way. One store opens at midnight and all the other stores get scared so they follow suit. Open at a regular time, offer better prices and merchandise, and show that you have added value. This kind of action "cheapens" a business in my opinion.
05:10 AM on 11/21/2011
well good.......but maximize the shopping hours of people still off work
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Haditup2here
8 Years of Insanity and now you're mad?
09:42 PM on 11/20/2011
Why this continuation of madness? Do people not understand the concept of "the rate of diminishing returns"? There is nothing out there worth forgoing my sleep and getting up 4-5AM to buy during the holiday season -- especially when I could find it for the same price or cheaper online in my pajamas.

Besides, retail workers are people too and deserve to have a day off every now and then.
01:53 AM on 11/21/2011
I think the shoppers get a high out of doing it.
05:16 AM on 11/21/2011
"Besides, retail workers are people too and deserve to have a day off every now and then. "

not really
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Haditup2here
8 Years of Insanity and now you're mad?
09:45 AM on 11/21/2011
If that is the case, then the same should apply to you
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wtf is this
It depends.
07:28 PM on 11/20/2011
I don't get the need to be Christmas shopping at 2 a.m.
The deals can't be that great. Certainly nothing to entice me out of a good nights sleep.
But if thats what the market wants.... more power to them.
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trekie70
Lifelong bibliophile and political junkie
06:53 PM on 11/20/2011
I will not be shopping at any store on Black Friday that opened Thanksgiving nite. Those employees deserve time with their families and I will do what I can to support them.
01:58 PM on 11/21/2011
I am doing the same, but following it up with a letter so they know why.
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bookreader451
"You can't ever have my books," she said.
06:42 PM on 11/20/2011
My husband and I went to Kmart this morning (butter $2.00/lbs) and they had a big sign out front saying OPEN THANKSGIVING. My husband ways to me, "I bet the executives are all home with their families" He was so right.

The whole black Friday thing has gotten out of control. There is nothing in the world I need that can't wait until the sun comes up and the holiday is over.
alunsulen
Digging the liberal hatred!
10:26 PM on 11/20/2011
You won't know what you missed :P
01:59 PM on 11/21/2011
So selfish - those people have a family too