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UFO Encounter Revealed After Almost 40 Years By Ex-Military Pilot: Exclusive

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First Posted: 04/03/12 11:53 AM ET Updated: 04/05/12 12:08 PM ET

On the night of Feb. 6, 1975, Marine Reserve Squadron Capt. Larry Jividen was piloting a T-39D Sabreliner (see image above) combat trainer and utility aircraft with five Naval officer pilots on board for a special training flight. He didn't know the evening would evolve into a game of "tag" with an unidentified flying object.

Jividen hasn't spoken about that experience from nearly 40 years ago -- until now.

The nine-year Marine Corps officer -- and later commercial airline pilot -- had taken off at twilight for a two-hour roundtrip that began and ended at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Fla.

"At about 9 o'clock, we were descending from a high altitude -- around 33,000 feet -- and I looked off to the right side of the airplane where I saw a solid red light at our 1:00 o'clock position and altitude," Jividen told The Huffington Post.

"It was not flashing like normal anti-collision lights flash on airplanes. I thought it might be some other traffic, but I wasn't sure, so I called Pensacola Approach Control and said, 'Understand we're cleared for the approach, but we have traffic off to our right, and who's first for the approach?"

The traffic that Jividen and the other five crew members saw was mutually described as "a solid, circular object about the relative size of a kid's marble held at arm's length," Jividen recalled.

When they were informed that ground control had no other traffic in their vicinity, Jividen became concerned that the mysterious object hadn't shown up on radar. So he asked for clearance to deviate from their approach and turn directly toward the bright red UFO "just to see what it does."

As he turned toward the object, Jividen says it turned toward his plane.

"It suddenly flew from right to left, across the nose [of our plane], and just stopped at our 11:00 o'clock position. At that point, I started to speed up to see if I could close on the object, and as I [did that], it was pacing me in front. In other words, as I'd speed up, he'd speed up.

"So, I decided to descend to place the object against a star field to make sure that it was actually solid, and then I climbed so that I could silhouette the object against the Gulf of Mexico."

Jividen says the five-minute encounter came to an end when the reddish UFO flew away at a very high rate and disappeared over the horizon in the direction of New Orleans.

After the crew returned to Pensacola, Jividen filled out an incident form and that was the last he heard of the episode.

And nobody else heard about it for more than three decades.

Jividen's story is now being told in a new edition of "UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies and Realities," written by retired Army Col. John Alexander.

"I did some background checks on [Jividen] and one of the first things that came back was his distinguished flying crosses for doing really heroic things. He is who he says he is and very straightforward," Alexander told HuffPost.

"I don't think there's any doubt that it was something. I take him as a highly credible witness, much more so than many other ones."

Alexander's unique top-secret clearance granted him by the U.S. government gave him access in the 1980s to a variety of official documents and first-person UFO accounts. He also created a special group of top-level government officials and scientists who studied the UFO phenomenon.

In the end, Alexander determined that the U.S., indeed, had evidence pointing to UFO reality, but he couldn't find any signs that the government deliberately kept this information from the public, or that contact had been made with alien life.

"One of the things we are seeing are physical characteristics that we don't understand, capabilities that are beyond our technological options at this time, i.e. extremely fast acceleration and high-G turns that living organisms, as we know it, would not survive," he explained.

Watch these amazing pilot close encounters with UFOs:

A larger issue going on with regard to UFOs seen by military, commercial and private pilots may turn out to be potential safety hazards, says at least one respected scientist.

"My friends who are scientists say, 'Well, there's nothing to UFOs. If there were, we would have the data and we'd look at it.' That's partly a valid statement, and it's pilots who are unwittingly preventing us from getting the data to analyze scientifically," said Richard Haines, a former research scientist from NASA's Ames Research Center.

Haines -- who prefers to use the term unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP, to UFO -- is a former UFO skeptic who now heads the National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena, or NARCAP.

"Our objectives are to make flying safer for the flying public, specifically in regard to UAP, and we're convinced there's a potential threat posed by nearby UAP to commercial and private airplanes," Haines told HuffPost.

Working with a staff of nearly 40 people, including international affiliates, Haines is NARCAP's chief scientist. He addresses the issue of pilots who have a fear reporting UFOs or UAPs while they're still actively flying.

"To me, that's a serious inhibiting factor for scientists like myself to collect the data."

Haines suggests that the fear factor surrounding pilots doesn't have as much to do with them being afraid of the objects they encounter as it does with the fear of losing their jobs if they talk about it.

"Exactly. I don't think it's a physical fear. NARCAP comes along with the objective of trying to make flying safer for the public, and the airlines don't want to hear that because it implies it's not safe! For obvious reasons, many of the reports I have are from retired pilots."

Like the one from Jividen, who filed a report with Haines last year -- almost 40 years after the fact, but it was still impressive.

"First of all, it had a number of witnesses," said Haines. "There were six guys on board and they're not all going to mistake a common illusion.

"After several minutes [the object] didn't change size, shape or intensity, which means that it not only accelerated in front of him and stopped at his 11:00 o'clock position, but it then maintained his forward velocity. We have to ask what kind of natural phenomenon can do that?"

Former NASA scientist Richard Haines describes a harrowing pilot encounter with a UFO:

Haines still isn't sure what these unusual objects are that so many pilots over decades have reported.

"I honestly don't know, and as a scientist, I want to keep all the doors open until I've got sufficient evidence, but until that time, I'm not going to speculate."

Alexander's research leads him to at least one important conclusion about the truly unexplained UFO or UAP cases.

"If you get to the fundamental issue -- if there is an intelligence behind this, and it certainly appears to be true -- things like energy have to be key. Certainly understanding a different form of energy would be incredibly useful."

Whatever the red circular object was that Jividen and his crew encountered that night in 1975, two things made a lasting impression on him.

"First, there was no radar contact with it. Clearly, by the silhouette and movement of my aircraft, this was a solid, self-propelled object.

"I don't think our physical science is advanced enough to evaluate what these things are. There's some physical phenomena going on that we just can't clearly interpret or evaluate -- it's obviously intelligently controlled, but it may not be ET."

 
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09:45 PM on 04/10/2012
I stumbled upon a rare banned book years ago about a man who reportedly was a MIB and upon his deathbed gave a confession. While the author claims it's not a true story, I looked up alot of the information and it's too accurate to be fake, maybe the author wanted to say it to ensure the US would not come after him.

Most pilots do know what they are seeing so I would give some credence and some items are top secret so when you see it you are confused. I once saw a car at 3am outside of Detroit I have never seen before or since, so most likely a prototype it was driving on the road I'm sure for a test run.

I've seen crazy things int he Nevada desert sky at night I still can't explain, but I'm not going to say they are UFO's most likely Military tests and we'll leave it at that.
06:34 PM on 04/10/2012
I have seen a few different equations that are designed to help us get a handle on the number of planets with intelligent life on them. I however propose a simpler one. If the universe is in fact infinite and maybe .00000001 % of the the planets out there harbour intelligent life then what is .0000001% of infinite? Given the same basic elements that we have and an abundance of time, both of which seem to be the case, I say its a metric shit ton of them. Any other conclusion is simply denial of an obvious truth.
11:37 AM on 04/10/2012
We're the ONLY beings in the ENTIRE GALAXY. Because 'we said so'...so it must be true...right.....
06:56 PM on 04/09/2012
When asked why he waited until now, the pilot said, "If no one believed me I could blame it on Alzheimers..."
05:10 PM on 04/09/2012
If I had a son he'd look just like Marine Reserve Squadron Capt. Larry Jividen
03:08 PM on 04/09/2012
My dad was an Air Force pilot. These men are PROFESSIONALS! They are NOT going to be fooled by weather balloons or the reflections of lights in their own cockpits. I'm glad to see these pilots coming forward and telling what they know. The government has covered this up long enough!

The day Kennedy was shot, he was suppose to make a speech, saying we had made contact with aliens, and that our government had agreed to LET them abduct Americans to study, as long as they put them back where they got them. Which, fits in with tons of stories of alien abductions by REPUTABLE people.
10:21 AM on 04/11/2012
Oh, for crying out loud!
03:03 PM on 04/09/2012
As a member of the Air Force Project Bluebook team, I didn't personally investigate any UFO sightings I would regard as credible, but there were tens of thousands of reports, with some 5% being determined as credible, from witnesses determined to be rational (with some being skeptics). When the project was shut down, it was done a disservice in the Condon Report. Bluebook had been created to determine if UFOs posed any possible threat to America or it's people, and the final result stated just that no threat had been found, but Condon put his own spin on that result to announce in the report that Bluebook had conclusively proved UFOs did not exist. Can't let scientific thought get in the way of a good "consensus" - sort of like global warming.
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Macro-bio won't fit...
03:00 PM on 04/09/2012
Could be possible, would be cool. But we'll never know for certain uless they come down and start zapping us with their ray guns.
09:16 PM on 04/08/2012
Actually the Guys posting about clearances are spot on! I worked on spy planes and came in contact with alot of classified items.For the most part you can only see ..."need to Know info" Walking up and asking for other Classified stuff will get you busted......Sorry they are right.....Ufo's nah more test planes and projects.Like the drone when I was at dreamland TS for sure now not as much....
06:19 PM on 04/08/2012
Another case of lights in the cockpit, or outside, reflected on the windscreen.... That's why the light "paced" him... Between his head angles and position of his field of view, and the movements he did with the aircraft, the light changed position "relative" to his position of view.

The light sounds like it was coming from a source external to the aircraft, since it "disappeared". The color of the light may also be misleading, since the windscreens of aircraft are laminated, and have metallics in them for the heating and glare reflectivity. It is possible the light was white or yellow and a "prism" effect of the windscreen caused a filtering of the light spectrum.
06:21 PM on 04/08/2012
And, before others comment, I do know that some low speed or low alititude aircraft such as helicopters and light planes only have single layer plexiglass with no heating or glare coating... So, save your typing....
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09:27 AM on 04/08/2012
Some people just to do not understand the vast distances need to get to even the closest star system. These are the same people that ask Hugh Laury for medical advice.
06:44 PM on 04/10/2012
hmmm... vast distances. When considering they could have been ahead of us for millions of years, I think your post has little relevance.
02:13 PM on 04/07/2012
Gee.......let me guess.....this guy just happens to have a book or memoir to sell........
02:51 PM on 04/06/2012
"the fear of losing their jobs if they talk about it."

This is exactly why it is so hard to understand this phenomenon. It's not a problem of not enough cases, it's a problem of getting people to talk about these incidents.
08:35 AM on 04/06/2012
go look at old news reports from the 50s and you will see plenty of so called "reputable" lawyers judges policemen all telling "true stories" about metal flying saucers with green men in them. Whatever the common idea of what a UFO would look like is what the people of that time report seeing.

who knows why they make the stories up?? honestly do some research into it, the real phenomena is why people with good reputations make up stories?

This one sounds like he had a laser pointed at him.
11:27 AM on 04/08/2012
People with good reputations have no need to make anything up. Most are reporting to someone in authority their experience knowing full well the experience will be discounted anyway. There may far too many who don't report knowing what they've seen will be unexplained.
12:11 AM on 04/06/2012
One of the most ridiculous things is that whoever wrote this doesn't understand how a Top Secret clearance works. I see it over and over in all sorts of media. Having a clearance doesn't mean you're automatically entrusted with access to everything top secret. You are granted access to information deemed necessary for YOUR JOB ONLY, and nothing else. That's where the phrase "need to know" came from. It's not like he walked up to a government archive and said, "Hi, I have a TS clearance, I want to see everything you have on UFOs." That's preceisely how you lose a clearance, is sticking your nose where you have no business. I don't use my clearance to poke my nose into other unit's information, and I'd have a lot of questions to answer if I did.
02:05 AM on 04/07/2012
I always thought that, until Bradley Manning was able to access enormous quantities of highly classified data, regarding many different subjects, none of which had anything to do with his job.
08:53 AM on 04/07/2012
hi guy absolutely right. if i used my clearance for some unorthorized snooping something unpleasant would use up a lot of my time in the future. everything is on a need to know basis.i can,t stand these nitwits who, without anything but their opinions, make statements about others experiences. i was once required to fill out an incident report concerning a ufo near GITMO. after i was told not to speak of it. at that time we were fighting the cold war with russia.i didn,t question. i obeyed. the military way. there is a lot more going on in this world than most people would believe. wake up people!!!