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Roswell UFO Crash: There Were 2 Crashes, Not 1, Says Ex-Air Force Official

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First Posted: 08/03/12 07:47 AM ET Updated: 08/07/12 11:41 AM ET

The 1947 UFO controversy of Roswell, N.M. is like a bad penny: It keeps turning up.

The legend, rehashed by conspiracy theorists in countless documentaries, revolves around allegations that an unusual object fell from the sky -- an object so bizarre that the U.S. Air Force issued a press release that a flying saucer had crashed.

That story was quickly recanted, creating what would become one of the greatest urban legends in American history.

Until now, most debunkers doubted that there was even one crash. Now, in an exclusive interview, retired Air Force Lt. Col. Richard French told The Huffington Post that there were actually two crashes.

This revelation is especially remarkable considering that French was known in the past to debunk UFO stories.

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"There were actually two crashes at Roswell, which most people don't know," French told HuffPost. "The first one was shot down by an experimental U.S. airplane that was flying out of White Sands, N.M., and it shot what was effectively an electronic pulse-type weapon that disabled and took away all the controls of the UFO, and that's why it crashed."

French -- an Air Force pilot who was in Alamagordo, N.M., in 1947, being tested in an altitude chamber, an annual requirement for rated officers -- was very specific in how the military allegedly brought down what he believes was a spacecraft from another world.

"When they hit it with that electromagnetic pulse -- bingo! -- there goes all their electronics and, consequently, the UFO was uncontrollable," said French, who flew hundreds of combat missions in Korea and Southeast Asia, and who held several positions working for Military Intelligence.

Another retired officer doubts French's story.

"No chance! Zero chance!" said Army Col. John Alexander, whose own top-secret clearance gave him access in the 1980s to official documents and UFO accounts. He created a top-level group of government officials and scientists who determined that, while UFOs are real, they couldn't find evidence of an official cover-up.

"In the 1980s, I was the guy developing all of the pulse-power weapons systems. We couldn't have done it then. In the 60s, they had a laser system, but your range was extremely limited, and we didn't have operational laser weapons in that time frame," said Alexander, who is working to get amnesty for military personnel who wish to talk about their UFO experiences.

Except for the initial newspaper headline declaring the military had captured a flying saucer outside of Roswell, the Air Force closed the books on Roswell, claiming that the true identity of the object was a high-altitude surveillance balloon, code-named "Mogul."

But after eyewitnesses -- including numerous military personnel -- began to tell stories of their participation in an alleged cover-up of the Roswell incident, some researchers insisted that it was, in fact, an alien ship that crashed at Roswell.

Watch this video of Ret. Air Force Lt. Col. Richard French

French says he was told about the UFO "shootdown" by another military officer -- a confidential source -- from White Sands Proving Grounds, an area of the New Mexico desert where the U.S. military tested many weapons systems.

His source told French there was a second UFO crash near Roswell a few days after the first one.

"It was within a few miles of where the original crash was," French said. "We think that the reason they were in there at that time was to try and recover parts and any survivors of the first crash. I'm [referring to] the people from outer space -- the guys whose UFO it was."

While French offered no further details on what he says was a second UFO crash, he teased something else.

"I had seen photographs of parts of the UFO that had inscriptions on it that looked like it was in an Arabic language -- it was like a part number on each one of them. They were photographs in a folder that I just thumbed through."

That's an interesting parallel to the recent story of ex-CIA agent Chase Brandon, who claimed he found a box at CIA headquarters in the 1990s -- a box labeled "Roswell."

Brandon told HuffPost he looked in the box and went through written materials and photographs confirming his suspicions that the object which crashed at Roswell, "was a craft that clearly did not come from this planet."

That story set off a fury of controversy between those who believed and didn't believe Brandon's story.

Watch this 1997 news report on the Air Force's 'Case Closed: Final Report on the Roswell Crash'

And now we have French, who served more than 27 years in the military, including as an investigator and debunker for the Air Force's famous study of UFOs, known as Project Blue Book, which began in 1947.

"I'm one of the authors of Project Blue Book, and started with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, stationed in Spokane, Wash. One of the duties I had in 1952 was to debunk UFO stories," French said.

"In other words, if someone had a UFO sighting, I and another agent would try to come up with some logical explanation for this strange aerial appearance. Most of the reports were from civilians than military. We gave our analysis and tried to debunk it by saying it was swamp fog or that the thing they saw was actually hanging on wires. It went up through channels all the way to the presidential level."

But why was French ordered to debunk UFO reports in the first place?

"They never give you an explanation, but I'll tell you what my analysis of it is: If they accepted the fact that there are creatures coming to Earth from other universes or from wherever, it basically would destroy religions, and the fact that our military's helpless against them would destroy the reputation of the military," French said. "You're talking about military, national defense and religious reasons."

As it often turns out with eye-opening UFO stories, it comes down to who you believe.

Antonio Huneeus is a 30-year veteran UFO investigative reporter who recently spent time with French and is trying to uncover more facts about the information the former Military Intelligence officer would have us believe.

"We did a search and found his name on an official Air Force page that confirmed he was a combat pilot, but that page had nothing to do with UFOs," Huneeus, editor of Open Minds Magazine, told HuffPost.

"My reservations are about some of the claims that he makes, and because of his age, his memory isn't as good as it used to be," Huneeus said. "It's clear to me that he's fairly well read on the subject of UFOs, or he might have heard stories or talked to people. So, I'm trying to separate exactly what he lived and saw directly from what he heard and read."

Sixty years after French began investigating UFOs for Project Blue Book, he still thinks there's a cover-up.

"It's going on today. There's no question about it. I've listened to their denials many times and, at that time, I was in direct opposition to their position. In my mind, there wasn't any question that UFOs were real."

 
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05:57 PM on 08/13/2012
Find something better to do with your time. All of you.
05:50 PM on 08/13/2012
Very hard to find where you can comment on the news. What is going on?
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02:36 PM on 08/12/2012
"If they accepted the fact that there are creatures coming to Earth from other universes or from wherever, it basically would destroy religions, and the fact that our military's helpless against them would destroy the reputation of the military," French said. "You're talking about military, national defense and religious reasons."
01:06 PM on 08/11/2012
Of course there were, and still are other life forms out there. You would really have to be numb to think we are it.
09:47 AM on 08/10/2012
They're not going to show themselves now for certain, they're too afraid Barack Obama will set to destroy them the same way he's planning on destroying the USA, along with the rest of the world.
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zelduh
Democrats: the REAL American patriots.
02:33 PM on 08/12/2012
Really?

Sheesh!
12:18 PM on 08/13/2012
Zelda, you are living proof that light is faster than sound. You looked bright to this board until you opened your mouth and destroyed the illusion.
09:36 AM on 08/10/2012
Where can I buy his book?
07:14 AM on 08/10/2012
So, an interstellar craft makes it here from, at a minimum, 50 light years from earth and our 1947 technology is able to shoot it down? Pretty far-fetched, don't you think? If there are visitors from other planets, they clearly have the technology to see our TV news, understand it, and visit us covertly without getting shot down even today, let alone 55 years ago.
06:26 PM on 08/10/2012
Well, if they picked up news broadcasts from ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/PBS/CPB/MSNBC, they would have only been fed disinformation, so it is likely that is what caused their demise - just as it is doing here on Earth.
10:28 AM on 08/11/2012
Re:gfm2008 comment -

"Well, if they picked up news broadcasts from ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/PBS/CPB/MSNBC, they would have only been fed disinformation, so it is likely that is what caused their demise - just as it is doing here on Earth."

You forgot to mention the most biased "news" broadcaster of all - FOX NEWS - who are infamous for their policy of constant, deliberate distribution of misinformation -

I'm sure this was an unintentional omission as you seem to have wanted to express a fair and balanced opinion.
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Wistfulslinking
World traveller, bon-vivant, writer..
09:38 PM on 08/09/2012
What with ALL the new names posting. Hmmmmmm?

One UFO fanatic creating multiple accounts? Yep!
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Wistfulslinking
World traveller, bon-vivant, writer..
09:36 PM on 08/09/2012
The truth is out there...
06:29 PM on 08/10/2012
Great. Why don't you go and find it? And, learn how to spell "traveler."
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Wistfulslinking
World traveller, bon-vivant, writer..
06:37 PM on 08/10/2012
1) You missed the very obvious X-File reference due to you lack of knowledge of culture. 2) "Traveller" is spelled as I wrote it... where English was created.
03:05 PM on 08/09/2012
We have nothing but poor images, and a handful of eye witness cases that remind one of WW II with the trans-pacific natives worshiping our pilots after they landed on their island.

Not doubting the aliens, but the so-called alien experts who collectively have a scientific IQ of 3 points above bean dip.

For instance, we model electronics material in 6 dimensional energy space - you do not have to be a green-eyed, purple people eater to do this type of advanced mathematics that EE's do routinely.
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09:36 PM on 08/09/2012
You must be kicks at cocktail parties.
04:26 PM on 08/10/2012
Not sure if we still have cocktail parties since I had breakfast at Tiffany's, but you can sell my boat any day. Not alien, but as an intelligent life form and biologically compatible do keep in touch, slinking sailor of mine.

Last time I took an 18 sleeper out was at Newport R.I. from the War College Marina with several drunk deck hands down to NYC harbor...any back again.
11:36 AM on 08/09/2012
We have photos. We have stories and eyewitnesses. Most still don't truly believe. Then again, just like the much-more-believable 'Bigfoot' (what? a simple descendant of Australopithecus?), we are going to need a living, breathing captured being paraded around on a leash in public for most to buy into any major facet of the 'story'.
12:59 AM on 08/09/2012
We have been searching for intelligent life elsewhere, because we seem to have little here.
11:12 AM on 08/08/2012
Oops typo in my previous comment: "mice" was supposed to be te word "mixed"
11:11 AM on 08/08/2012
Evidence = photos/artifacts... This would amount to proof. Anecdotal stories from mice memories 60+ years old simply do not mean anything. Having been in the military isn't enough reason to simply believe outright what is being stated. I work with military personnel and by and large they are patriotic, fine human beings as great friends. But not one is a SCIENTIST. Air force pilots are actually quite uncertain about anything else flying in the sky and are remarkably in equipped to identify night time objects such as astronomical phenomena.
So my experience is that these military veteran type reports have to be viewed as delivered from within the very limited range of speciality that the military breeds within its ranks. In the UFO arena this doesn't help us very much contrary to popular belief.
02:52 PM on 08/07/2012
There is a ton of evidence that has been revealed over the years from various sources and cases. It is true that governments around the globe fear that an unraveling of the social fabric would happen if it were officially admitted that there were indeed intelligent beings visiting us. War of the Worlds put the fear of God into governements when they saw people's reaction (people actually ran out of their houses screaming in fear).