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Lance Armstrong Interview: Cyclist Confesses Doping To Oprah

JIM LITKE   01/17/13 11:50 PM ET  AP

CHICAGO — He did it. He finally admitted it. Lance Armstrong doped.

He was light on the details and didn't name names. He mused that he might not have been caught if not for his comeback in 2009. And he was certain his "fate was sealed" when longtime friend, training partner and trusted lieutenant George Hincapie, who was along for the ride on all seven of Armstrong's Tour de France wins from 1999-2005, was forced to give him up to anti-doping authorities.

But right from the start and more than two dozen times during the first of a two-part interview Thursday night with Oprah Winfrey on her OWN network, the disgraced former cycling champion acknowledged what he had lied about repeatedly for years, and what had been one of the worst-kept secrets for the better part of a week: He was the ringleader of an elaborate doping scheme on a U.S. Postal Service team that swept him to the top of the podium at the Tour de France time after time.

"I'm a flawed character," he said.

Did it feel wrong?

"No," Armstrong replied. "Scary."

"Did you feel bad about it?" Winfrey pressed him.

"No," he said. "Even scarier."

"Did you feel in any way that you were cheating?"

"No," Armstrong paused. "Scariest."

"I went and looked up the definition of cheat," he added a moment later. "And the definition is to gain an advantage on a rival or foe. I didn't view it that way. I viewed it as a level playing field."

Wearing a blue blazer and open-neck shirt, Armstrong was direct and matter-of-fact, neither pained nor defensive. He looked straight ahead. There were no tears and very few laughs.

He dodged few questions and refused to implicate anyone else, even as he said it was humanly impossible to win seven straight Tours without doping.

"I'm not comfortable talking about other people," Armstrong said. "I don't want to accuse anybody."

Whether his televised confession will help or hurt Armstrong's bruised reputation and his already-tenuous defense in at least two pending lawsuits, and possibly a third, remains to be seen. Either way, a story that seemed too good to be true – cancer survivor returns to win one of sport's most grueling events seven times in a row – was revealed to be just that.

"This story was so perfect for so long. It's this myth, this perfect story, and it wasn't true," he said.

Winfrey got right to the point when the interview began, asking for yes-or-no answers to five questions.

Did Armstrong take banned substances? "Yes."

Was one of those EPO? "Yes."

Did he do blood doping and use transfusions? "Yes."

Did he use testosterone, cortisone and human growth hormone? "Yes."

Did he take banned substances or blood dope in all his Tour wins? "Yes."

Along the way, Armstrong cast aside teammates who questioned his tactics, yet swore he raced clean and tried to silence anyone who said otherwise. Ruthless and rich enough to settle any score, no place seemed beyond his reach – courtrooms, the court of public opinion, even along the roads of his sport's most prestigious race.

That relentless pursuit was one of the things that Armstrong said he regretted most.

"I deserve this," he said twice.

"It's a major flaw, and it's a guy who expected to get whatever he wanted and to control every outcome. And it's inexcusable. And when I say there are people who will hear this and never forgive me, I understand that. I do. ...

"That defiance, that attitude, that arrogance, you cannot deny it."

Armstrong said he started doping in mid-1990s but didn't when he finished third in his comeback attempt.

Anti-doping officials have said nothing short of a confession under oath – "not talking to a talk-show host," is how World Anti-Doping Agency director general David Howman put it – could prompt a reconsideration of Armstrong's lifetime ban from sanctioned events.

He's also had discussions with officials at the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, whose 1,000-page report in October included testimony from nearly a dozen former teammates and led to stripping Armstrong of his Tour titles. Shortly after, he lost nearly all his endorsements and was forced to walk away from the Livestrong cancer charity he founded in 1997.

Armstrong could provide information that might get his ban reduced to eight years. By then, he would be 49. He returned to triathlons, where he began his professional career as a teenager, after retiring from cycling in 2011, and has told people he's desperate to get back.

Initial reaction from anti-doping officials ranged from hostile to cool.

WADA president John Fahey derided Armstrong's defense that he doped to create "a level playing field" as "a convenient way of justifying what he did – a fraud."

"He was wrong, he cheated and there was no excuse for what he did," Fahey said by telephone in Australia.

If Armstrong "was looking for redemption," Fahey added, "he didn't succeed in getting that."

USADA chief Travis Tygart, who pursued the case against Armstrong when others had stopped, said the cyclist's confession was just a start.

"Tonight, Lance Armstrong finally acknowledged that his cycling career was built on a powerful combination of doping and deceit," Tygart said. "His admission that he doped throughout his career is a small step in the right direction. But if he is sincere in his desire to correct his past mistakes, he will testify under oath about the full extent of his doping activities."

Livestrong issued a statement that said the charity was "disappointed by the news that Lance Armstrong misled people during and after his cycling career, including us."

"Earlier this week, Lance apologized to our staff and we accepted his apology in order to move on and chart a strong, independent course," it said.

The interview revealed very few details about Armstrong's performance-enhancing regimen that would surprise anti-doping officials.

What he called "my cocktail" contained the steroid testosterone and the blood-booster erythropoetein, or EPO, "but not a lot," Armstrong said. That was on top of blood-doping, which involved removing his own blood and weeks later re-injecting it into his system.

All of it was designed to build strength and endurance, but it became so routine that Armstrong described it as "like saying we have to have air in our tires or water in our bottles."

"That was, in my view, part of the job," he said.

Armstrong was evasive, or begged off entirely, when Winfrey tried to connect his use to others who aided or abetted the performance-enhancing scheme on the USPS team

When she asked him about Italian doctor Michele Ferrari, who was implicated in doping-related scrapes and has also been banned from cycling for life, Armstrong relied, "It's hard to talk about some of these things and not mention names. There are people in this story, they're good people and we've all made mistakes ... they're not monsters, not toxic and not evil, and I viewed Michele Ferrari as a good man and smart man and still do."

But that's nearly all Armstrong would say about the physician that some reports have suggested educated the cyclist about doping and looked after other aspects of his training program.

He was almost as reluctant to discuss claims by former teammates Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis that Armstrong told them, separately, that he tested positive during the 2001 Tour de Suisse and conspired with officials of the International Cycling Union officials to cover it up – in exchange for a donation.

"That story wasn't true. There was no positive test, no paying off of the labs. There was no secret meeting with the lab director," he said.

Winfrey pressed him again, asking if the money he donated wasn't part of a tit-for-tat agreement, "Why make it?"

"Because they asked me to," Armstrong began.

"This is impossible for me to answer and have anybody believe it," he said. "It was not in exchange for any cover-up. ... I have every incentive here to tell you `yes.'"

Finally, he summed up the entire episode this way: "I was retired. ... They needed money."

The closest Armstrong came to contrition was when Winfrey asked him about his apologies in recent days, notably to former teammate Frankie Andreu, who struggled to find work in cycling after Armstrong dropped him from the USPS team, as well as his wife, Betsy. Armstrong said she was jealous of his success, and invented stories about his doping as part of a long-running vendetta.

"Have you made peace?" Winfrey asked.

"No," Armstrong replied, "because they've been hurt too badly, and a 40-minute (phone) conversation isn't enough."

He also called London Sunday Times reporter David Walsh as well as Emma O'Reilly, who worked as a masseuse for the USPS team and later provided considerable material for a critical book Walsh wrote about Armstrong and his role in cycling's doping culture.

Armstrong subsequently sued for libel in Britain and won a $500,000 judgment against the newspaper, which is now suing to get the money back. Armstrong was, if anything, even more vicious in the way he went after O'Reilly. He intimated she was let go from the Postal team because she seemed more interested in personal relationships than professional ones.

"What do you want to say about Emma O'Reilly?" Winfrey asked.

"She, she's one of these people that I have to apologize to. She's one of these people that got run over, got bullied."

"You sued her?"

"To be honest, Oprah, we sued so many people I don't even," Armstrong said, then paused, "I'm sure we did."

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AP Sports Writers Jim Vertuno in Austin, Texas, Eddie Pells in Denver and Dennis Passa in Sydney contributed to this report.

 
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10:26 PM on 01/19/2013
It's a shame that he lied for so long. Denial that he was caught. I found a very appropriate shirt that says LIVEWRONG. I ordered it from shoplivewrong .com. It should be here next week and I can't wait to wear it.
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Sean777
06:28 PM on 01/19/2013
If Armstrong got paid million of dollars for being a fake winner; why he is not facing any monetary sanctions or lawsuits?

Sport commissions are regulated by the Government if Armstrong made false statements to Government officials, why he is not facing any charges?
06:10 PM on 01/19/2013
I remember sitting in church one Sunday, horrified, while the Pastor was holding up a front page news paper article about Lance. Mr. Armstrong had showed up at some event at the Griffith Observatory.and it became front page news. Pastor held up this article for all to see while gving newspapers his hallmark of approval. I was horrified because here was a man in a positon of power acting as if "If it's in print, it's fact"! I didn't know about Lance's doping then nor does this truth affect my life. Newspapers lying and printing what people "say" as fact, does.
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04:30 PM on 01/19/2013
Lance and Oprah and Manti Te'o and Gordon Gekko--that's where we're at in the U.S.
12:16 PM on 01/19/2013
He's an athlete, competing in a sport rife with cheating, and he was the best at it. You were expecting maybe Jesus?
04:20 PM on 01/19/2013
Thank you Jim: I couldn't have said it better,. We will never, ever get rid of athletic sports doping until management is held responsible.:

“Don’t blame Lance Armstrong for all of it! Follow the money made by the sports increased coverage and sales. Steroid use didn’t just happen overnight. The Russians used it in the Olympic as far back as the 1960’s.

These scandals go much deeper than any Athlete, they are as much a part of that sport as they are of the Athlete's and some span over 40 years.
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To only blame the Athlete like Lance Armstrong, or Steroid Barry Bonds, or a single football player where wide spread use has been known for decades; would be like holding Sandusky responsible for his crimes and letting Penn State walk away free.

If one stops and tries to name another Cycling champion besides Lance Armstrong without searching, then you would realize how his doping spree lasted over a decade. He was the sports income, fame, sales, and poster child. Record breaking sales and profit kept management sitting idle and reaped the financial benifits. I'm not just talking about cycling, Baseball, Football, and who knows how many more.

DOPING IS STILL ALIVE AND IN WIDE USE, AND WILL REMAIN, UNTIL SPORTS COMMISSIONERS AND MANAGEMENT ARE HELD RESPONSIBLE.
11:19 AM on 01/19/2013
What is it about Oprah Winfrey that makes everyone come clean? Am I the only one that notices that?
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insrob
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11:07 PM on 01/18/2013
Is narcissist the correct word for this horrible excuse for a human being. The audacity of him to sit and talk with the " O " and try to spin and control the interview is disgusting! It's almost like he's trying to somehow justify what he did. " O" too soft on him, ya think ?
Norman Maine
Chance favors only the prepared mind.
12:16 PM on 01/19/2013
Too soft is right. She doesn't have long knives like some interviewers and that is probably a major reason Lance agreed to the gig. It's easy to be interviewed when the questions are soft. What people want to know is how he did what he did and escaped detection. He's concerned about his next act and figured an interview with Oprah would help him.
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keezze
09:11 PM on 01/18/2013
He disgraced the sport, his sponcers, supporters and worst of all America. I personally never liked him as he seemed over done and fake and very cold and calculating never smileing and not like other sports people that are easy going, fun loving and a team spirited kind of guy. He turned me off to that sport. Hindsite we can now see His lies with such a streight face and his greed for money power, and prestege should be the lesson we can take home from this animal. Its not worth it, living dishonestly and telling lies to jump ahead of others is nothing any sane person should ever want to do because it will haunt you for eternity unless you make it up. Its ugly, hurtful and unaccepteable.
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cashey
I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself
08:47 PM on 01/18/2013
Armstrong should run for public office.............he has all the necessary qualifications
08:39 PM on 01/18/2013
WE all knew this CLOWN WAS A DOPE ( Sorry Clowns)
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vetxcl
07:02 PM on 01/18/2013
Bring on the law suits. This is already bigger than the Pete Rose gambling scandal and it's such a minor US sport.
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WilliamProc
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12:34 PM on 01/19/2013
I can't say that.

Pete Rose may have bet against his own team while coaching and managing them, its not the same as doping to win. Throwing a game for your bookie is an wholly different can of worms.
06:43 PM on 01/18/2013
I don't know what to make of this man. I am still wondering why he came out and told the truth now? He's going to be sued by everyone and anyone. It makes no sense.
08:40 PM on 01/18/2013
He wants to be forgiven , But that was after he got Caught
09:39 AM on 01/19/2013
You think so because I didn't really see him as being apologetic but I only saw parts of it that were repeated on other shows. I think a lot of men are nuts. That other guy Manti also. Must be something in their genetics.
05:58 PM on 01/18/2013
Narcissism defined; Extreme selfishness, with a grandiose view of one's own talents and a craving for admiration.

It never ceases to amaze me (sadly) at how easily it is for some of us to deny so emphatically our own truth--and to then attack truth sayers when the truth is exposed.

Lance Armstrong--in my opinion--is a narcissist...who has long ago lost his soul...

His poor ex wife...

Kudos to Betsey and her husband Frankie--two of the good guys in town.

Shame on you Lance--you're nothing but a phony--and worse--a giant bully...
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11:02 PM on 01/18/2013
your too kind LR, he does'nt deserve any sympathy at all, he is a thug, think of those poor people whose lives were changed and ruined forever because if you spoke out against him, he would attack you and bury you in legal expenses. It was his intent from the beginning, to defreaud the sport, and it did not bother him one bit, makes him nothing more than a lowlife.
Question is, why come clean now.? Who profits from his "exclusive" interview with O
Your whole life is a freaud, expect to see him in prison, in gutter, or dead(suicide)within the next year! You may have beat cancer, but everything you do in life comes back to you
06:36 AM on 01/20/2013
I agree with you. His interview with O in my opinion--was done so only because he was caught--and because ( in my opinion ) he knew of all the interviewers out there--O was not going to interrogate him the way perhaps B Walters may have.  He basically confessed to America's Grandmother--and in the process got to tell his story to the world in a gentle setting.  Even if he does go to jail--he will write books--give interviews and profit--still...And that is the true crime...
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05:14 PM on 01/18/2013
I think he honestly believe's all the lies he told. I do think he is a manipulator and I think he is coming out because he can't hide anymore. Do I feel for him, I don't know? I have pictures of his 2005 race in France that a friend of mine went to. I was so proud to have them, and now I just don't know? I think when you lie so much that after awhile it becomes easy. Do I think the man was a perfectionist, yes, and do I think that the lying had something to do with it, yes, so I'll give him that, sports stars are driven people in the field they are in, so I think that had something to do with it, but I think he needs to seek help as to why he lied so long to his Mom and kids and how about his ex-wife, did she know? I do feel that he should be ordered to go to threapy, he needs to heal with help. This is a good first step, but that step should have not taken over a million steps to get to this point. We all sin, some more then other's but lets hope he has now learned. I don't know, time will tell.
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fearlessfaith
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08:22 PM on 01/18/2013
"Do I feel for him, I don't know?"--- That's an honest answer. And that is what I feel he tries to manipulate in people such as yourself that, from just the words that you've written above, try to see the good in others and that we all are flawed. And we need that empathy for one another in those times.

But as Adam Ferrier, a psychologist in Australia said recently: "I began to take notice of Lance Armstrong and started to see him not just an 'everyday drug cheat' but as someone who, from a distance, appears to have extreme narcissism with 'psychopathic' traits." http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4464434.html

If that is the case, he thrives off of exploiting the empathy of others for his own gain. My guess is that we will see more of it tonight. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
04:46 PM on 01/18/2013
Besides Armstrong, is it now suddenly the expected assumption that if an athlete is at the top of his/her sport, it's because they're likely to be using some type of drug to enhance their healing, strength, speed or endurance? Apparently the answer is yes and it's been the "norm" if you compete in track & field, cycling, baseball, football, and so many other sports. Why are so many pretending to be surprised by Armstrong's admissions? Today's elite athletes don't come from "the land of Oz", they're just a product of modern chemistry.
Norman Maine
Chance favors only the prepared mind.
12:24 PM on 01/19/2013
The irony, to me, is that an athlete would hurt his or her body with drugs. Legitimate athletes are generally health conscious. I guess when it's all about winning, reason and rationale thinking are nowhere to be had. Lance's admissions do not surprise me. Like many, I wanted to believe he was legitimate when the doping allegations first surfaced. We tend to put people on pedestals and then knock them off. We assume if someone got to a certain level that it could not be through natural ability. We need to believe the best about people. With people like Lance around, who repeatedly lie, it's tough and our cynicism rises. I am hopeful there are people (athletes) who are still honest.